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Re: [Virago] Virago vs Venture

Date : Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:44:56 -0500
To : virago@xxxxxxxxxxxx
From : WILLIAM M HALL <wmh9680@xxxxxxxx>
Subject : Re: [Virago] Virago vs Venture
How hard is it to get your Venture up on the center stand and what if you
go head first down a narrow road and have to back out? Mike
 
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:24:45 -0700 James J Schneider
<jjschneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> "Thanks, I hate the thought of not riding the Virago but my wife 
> always
> sees Ventures-Goldwings and Harleys with all the bells ans whisles 
> where
> she could stretch out-have a radio-and have a place to put her pop 
> and
> lots of storage and I think she would ride more and longer, not to
> mention I'm sure a smoother ride (shes has a pin in her back from 
> spinal
> fusion surgery so she doesn't like bumps). I'll have to check into 
> all
> the aftermarket stuff. I've seen some and they look nice. Do they 
> have
> the Virago motor or something bigger? It might be a tight fit in 
> the
> garage width and length wise. "
> 
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Check out this link on the Venturerider site:
> http://www.venturerider.org/modules.php?name=History
> 
> In short, Yammy made a very Gold Wing-like full-dresser called a 
> Venture
> from 83 to 93.  Fully faired, all the bells and whistles, big, and 
> around
> 780 lbs wet.  That's what I have, an 87.  Nice bike, but the GW was 
> so well
> established that Yammy never got the sales they wanted and cancelled 
> it.
> In 99, Yammy released the Royal Star Venture, still in production, 
> also a
> large full-dresser but cruiser-style - more exposed engine, 
> fork-mounted
> fairing as opposed to a stationary fairing, etc.  Looks alot like 
> the
> Harley full-dresser and VERY attractive.  It weighs over 800.  All
> Ventures, as well as V-max and Royal Star, share a 1200-1300cc, 
> water
> cooled v-four engine.  In the Max, it is tuned for 10,000 rpm and 
> 140hp; in
> the Ventures it is about 7500 rpm and 100hp with good torque.  1st 
> gen
> Ventures will do the quarter mile in about the same as a Virago - 
> right
> around 13 flat.  2nd gen are geared higher and the holeshot 
> suffers.
> 
> I've ridden both.  When pushing them around, they both feel every 
> bit as
> heavy as they are.  Once moving, they handle fine.  Not as 
> quick-turning as
> a Virago or something lighter, but you can still enjoy the twisties 
> on
> them.  The 2nd gen Ventures have cruiser geometry which makes them 
> not as
> sharp-handling as the 1st gen's.  Not that they handle badly, they 
> just
> don't turn as sharp.  When I get on the Virago now it feels like a 
> toy!  At
> this point I have put so much of myself into the Virago that I am 
> keeping
> both (thanks to God for that luxury), but the Venture to me is a 
> nice
> enough daily rider that I could survive w/o the Virago.  My dad 
> recently
> traded in his Intruder 1400 for a Kawi Voyager, also like a GW.  He
> sometimes misses the Intruder, but does not look back - he loves his 
> new
> bike.  The nice things about the Voyager are that they made them 
> until 2003
> or so, they are a little lighter (750lbs), and have a lower seat so 
> that
> they FEEL lighter pushing them around and getting under way.  
> Otherwise, it
> feels pretty similar to my Venture.
> 
> As for comfort, it is just no contest.  I spent years getting my 
> Virago
> right for me - Mustang seat, hiway pegs, floor boards for passenger, 
> etc,
> and it's a pretty nice ride.  But the Venture is so much nicer.  
> Yes, it
> rides smoother.  And no matter what you do, the Virago's seating 
> area is
> small.  The Venture just has more room for two people and the saddle 
> is
> more supportive, partly because of the extra real-estate.  The 
> comfort
> difference between the bikes is most pronounced for the passenger.  
> My wife
> is a delicate woman - she has lots of sore things and she gets hurt 
> easily.
> She used to ride on the Virago with me but as time passes she gets 
> more
> delicate (and we're only in our mid-30's - yikes!) and she just 
> couldn't
> handle it for very long anymore - it was no fun for her.  She could 
> hardly
> believe how comfy the Venture is.  Even on the 1200 mile, 4-day ride 
> she
> didn't get butt-sore, and with the hiway pegs I made, her knees were 
> pretty
> good, too.  The amenities are nice, intercom is superb, and luggage 
> space
> is sweet.  I love having a radio!
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>
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