So we pretty much agree then, the only test that really counts is your own,
as in, what you like is what you like, Whatever you like works for me.
Exit platform war.
Hey, did you get the picture of my bike I sent? It bounced once but then
didn't so I assume you got it?
On 3/30/02 8:19 PM, "Gumby [Matthew J Smith]" <Gumby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I would not believe any benchmark results you did not run your self, every
> company
> wins different ones and elaborates on others. But this is a 3d world and no
> many
> people care how fast you can word process, frames per second is the name of
> the
> game. Like 1/4 miles times.
>
> The benchmark everyone uses is http://www.madonion.com/products/3dmark2001
> if I ever see a Mac get a good score I may see your point but as it is right
> now
> only AMD temps me a bit but still a well tuned Intel smacks it hard in real
> world
> test not web page or company hype.
>
> Kind of like talking cars, lets see your time slip first not what the dealer
> told
> you.
>
>
>
>
>
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> jvandyke wrote:
>
>> A guy like you who obviously likes to "get under the hood" of his computer
>> can certainly get more "bang for the buck" as far as raw power goes. Those
>> however who like simplicity, quality, performance without making a hobby out
>> of attaining it themselves, like Macs.
>> In some benchmarks the dual processor G4 800 is 300 times (yes, that's not a
>> typo, 300 times faster then a 2+ gHz Pentium 4)
>> Cpu clockspeed is kinda like raw engine displacement, a marginal indicator
>> of overall performance. (AMD with tell you the same thing)
>> Motorola's G3/4 chip architecture is far more efficient then Intel's
>> (shorter pipelines and less of them) Therefore a 700mhz Mac is closer to a
>> 1ghz P4 but it depends so much on the type of task your benchmarking, Apple
>> chooses tasks that give their chip the edge, Intel the opposite.
>> I make my living working with, teaching, and managing a network of PC's
>> including Gateways, Dells, and tons of homemades. Windows, 95/98,2000, XP,
>> I use my Mac mostly because it's operating system (OS X) is way beyond
>> anything Microsoft has put out yet. I have yet to meet a techie (and I've
>> met lots of those) who truly knows both systems that didn't readily admit
>> the Mac was a superior machine overall. Not in every category maybe but
>> overall.
>>
>> But to each his own. I don't use PCs for anything other then work (even
>> there most of what I do is done on my Mac) so I honestly can't give an
>> overall comparison. I can run Windows on my Mac too when I have too, which
>> isn't very often thank heaven.
>> IMHO Macs are better, but unlike the HD vs. Virago analogy, in this case you
>> get something for your buck.
>> Did I mention I like Viragos?
>> --
>> Jeff
>> '95 1100
>> slash cut cobras
>> '75 Kawasaki Z1 900 (in moth balls as of today)
>> http://homepage.mac.com/jvandyke/PhotoAlbum9.html
>> http://homepage.mac.com/virago_pics
>> Rev A iBook
>> Rev B iBook
>> Dual usb iceBook
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/30/02 3:10 PM, "Gumby [Matthew J Smith]" <Gumby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I would label the Mac and the HD in the same category. Nice machines but way
>>> over price on parts and labor for what you get. Let alone the availability
>>> of
>>> them. You do not see a giant section of video cards for Macs, game or
>>> software.
>>> And if there are some made for Mac they will cost 3 times as much. Friend
>>> does
>>> Mac service; going rate is 200hr in town, 50-75 for a PC.
>>>
>>> With a PC I can build any design I want where Mac you just got to buy their
>>> version, no home building parts available at reasonable prices.
>>> I can build a screaming PC for half the price of even a regular PC off the
>>> shelf. You cannot build a Mac off the shelf for less than retail.
>>>
>>> Right now I have dual Intel p3800@916mhz /
>>> 512 of PC150 sdram@157mhz/
>>> Gforce2 TI pro 64 megs of DDRam, gpu 250mhz, ddram 400mhz/
>>> On a Msi 694d pro ar, ata 100 with raid.
>>>
>>> Dual boot Win2k pro sp3 / Win me
>>>
>>> And at anytime I can just go buy a bigger cpu; ram; video; storage space and
>>> not
>>> even need to ask will it work, just slap it in and go. And parts are super
>>> cheap
>>> right now. You can build your own 3 Ghz performance monster gaming machine
>>> for
>>> about 1,200.00. I have about 900.00 in parts mine but I built when prices
>>> were
>>> high.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now a Mac is good if you're a graphics artist or something but it is way to
>>> much
>>> like a HD.
>>>
>>> Download some benchmarks and lets race, Vrooom Vrooom Vrooom.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>> <<Mac computers, like
>>>> Viragos are tough and built for the long hual. If you want to use one of
>>>> those HD type, oh Im sorry, I meant PC type, knock yourself out.;)>>
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